Our 30th Anniverary Trip
Week 1
Hawaii
Week 2
Maui
Week 3
Molokai
Week 4
Kauai
Week 5
Oahu
Week 6
Island Cruise
Week 6 - Cruising The Islands
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August 12 - Yes, another Travel day
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# 6 to be exact. Our travel day was really nothing special. Derek & Jenny left around 8:30 because of traffic getting to the airport and of course the now 3 hour wait before you fly due to the idiot terrorists. We left around 10:00 and made a stop at Wal-Mart to pick up the pictures of our Parasail adventure which had developed overnight. We stopped at the Bishop Museum but they recommended 2 to 3 hours for a visit and we only had tw0 hours before we had to drop off our car. So we took a slight detour and stopped at the Punchbowl Crater.
In ancient times, the extinct volcanic Punchbowl Crater was known as Puowaina which means "Consecrated Hill" or "Hill of Sacrifice". It was the site of many secret Ali'i (royal) burials and a place where offenders of certain Kapus (taboos) were sacrificed. Today, the Hill of Sacrifice is the location of the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific where over46,000 service men and women from four wars are buried.
The National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific was the first such cemetery to install Bicentennial Medal of Honor headstones, the medal insignia being defined in gold leaf. On May 11, 1976, a total of 23 of these were placed on the graves of medal recipients, all but one of whom were killed in action. The Punchbowl has become one of the area’s most popular tourist destinations. More than five million visitors come to the cemetery each year to pay their respects to the dead and to enjoy the panoramic view from the Punchbowl. One of the most breathtaking views of the Island of Oahu can be found while standing at the highest point on the crater’s rim.
In August 2001, about 70 generic unknown markers for the graves of men known to have died during the attack on Pearl Harbor were replaced with markers that included “USS Arizona” after it was determined they perished on this vessel. In addition, new information that identified grave locations of 175 men whose graves were previously marked as unknown resulted in the installation of new markers in October 2002. The National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific was placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1976. The Cemetery of the Pacific contains a memorial pathway that is lined with a variety of memorials that honor America’s veterans from various organizations. As of 2005, there were 63 such memorials throughout the entire Cemetery . . . most commemorating soldiers of 20th-century wars, including those killed at Pearl Harbor.
Also on the Punchbowl site are the names of all the POW's and MIA's from the four wars listed by alphabetically by which military service they were in. There are also some terrific views of Honolulu and the harbor from the vantage point at Punchbowl.
After spending time at Punchbowl it was time to turn in the car and head for the cruise ship. We made arrangements with Thrifty Car Rental to drop off the car at their Waikiki site rather than to go back to the airport which would have cost to catch the shuttle to the cruise ship. However, when we got to the address they gave us, there was no car rental place . . . anywhere. So I called Thrifty and asked the nice person where their location was or if maybe it had moved. No, he assured me, it was right there. I said I didn't see it. So he called that office and they gave him directions. He relayed them to me and I even got out of the car to look for the office. None to be found. Then he said that they were just inside the Cinema building and that we had to take the car to the 10 floor of the parking garage next store. Wow, I said. That is really strange. So off we drove up 10 floors of the parking garage. Once at the very top, there they were several men checking in and cleaning the cars. I was instructed to take my luggage down to the bottom floor and that there would be a van waiting for me. However, I had to still take my paperwork and walk nearly a block out the garage, into the theatre and just before I would enter the doors there was a small kiosk for Thrifty car rental. In all it took nearly an hour to drop off the car!
It only took about 20 minutes to get to the cruise terminal and another 15 to get our boarding passes and board the ship.
One word can describe a cruise ship . . . MONEY! You can become poor taking a cruise. Veteran cruisers know what I am talking about. Although you have paid good money to go on a cruise, everything not covered on the ticket will cost you . . . dearly. We have our room covered and we can eat at 5 of the 11 restaurants at no charge. Now that seems really good, and it is . . . if you like a limited menu. Let me explain.
There are two very large restaurants on the Pride of America designed to feed the majority of the guests over a 6 hour period. They are the Skyline Restaurant and the Liberty Restaurant. Both serve exactly the same menu which is different each night. Tuesday will be our favorite as it is lobster night! See, they do serve good food! We also have the Aloha Cafe which is all buffet all the time and is open 24/7, and they do have a lot of choices and it is better than cafeteria style food. We have the Cadillac Diner which serves Denny style food for breakfast, lunch & dinner, and finally we have Little Italy which serves Italian food. Of course if you want wine or soda with your meal it will cost extra. They have a deal which if you are a soda drinker is really good at $35 for the entire week and allows you all the soda you can drink.
The other restaurants are: East Meets West which includes a Sushi , Teppanyaki, and Shabu Shabu, sort of a 3 in 1 restaurant with Asian flair; Jefferson's Bistro and the Lazy J Texas Steakhouse. All of these have either a $10 or $15 cover charge or a la carte pricing. Haven't decided if we will venture into any of the above restaurants before the end of the week.
August 13 - Boy, she’s really big, Pa!
The ship! I am talking about the ship! The Pride of America is an American registered ship and one of three in NCL’s fleet. Currently all are cruising the waters around Hawaii. The other two ships are the Pride of Hawaii & the Pride of Aloha. The Aloha is the oldest followed by the America, christened in June 2005 and then Hawaii christened in June 2006.
The ship is registered in Honolulu, HI and weighs in at 81,000 tons. She is 920.6 ft long and 105.6 wide and runs on diesel electric is 22 Knots or 25.3 mph. She has 1069 cabins accommodating approximately 2600 passengers.
OK, so your on a ship at sea. There is no where to go. Hmm, what do you do? What will you do?
Not a problem here. Besides the hundred or so shore excursions available to everyone the America is pretty self-contained. We have complete access to all of the following:
Art Gallery & Auction – real art, for sale
Arcade – video games and such
Bungee Trampoline – strap it on and go!
Card & Game Room – Cards, backgammon, chess, checkers . . .
Chapel – for that quiet time with your Creator
Conference Rooms – for those doing business on board
Entertainment & Activities – nightly shows and events
Gyroscope – strap yourself in and take a ride!
Kumu Cultural Center – to help better understand the Hawaiian culture
Laundry Services – well, ya gotta have clean undies!
Library- like to read? This is the place!
Newbury Street Shops (mall) – careful ladies!
Golf Hawaii Shop – careful men!
Photo Gallery – where all the photos they take of you while on board stay.
Swimming Pools & hot tubs – 2 salt water pools 6 hot tubs
Spa & Fitness Center – go ahead, pamper yourself.
Sports – basketball, volleyball, tennis, golf, outdoor chess & shuffleboard.
They also have separate programs for both kids and teens.
Basically, they have everything you need to feel right at home and yet still feel like your on vacation!
The Pride of America is themed to America’s past. The lobby looks like the inside of the White House. The Liberty Restaurant looks like the Senate chambers and the Skyline restaurant is decked out in Art Deco. The Jefferson Bistro is patterned after Monticello, Jefferson’s home, The Cadillac Diner looks like a diner from the 50’s and so on. Everywhere you go there is something depicting America in all it’s grander. Red, White & Blue, Mom, and Apple Pie . . . You can go to NCL’s website for a look and more explanation: www.ncl.com
Next, our first shore excursion.
August 13 - A zoo, A lava tree, a very warm pool and some nuts
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Today we went on our first excursion off the ship. It was called the Hawaiian Eco-Safari and it was a day of exploration into the formation, population, history, and culture of the Hawaiian Islands. We were given an understanding of the volcanic forces that created the islands, and continue to shape the island of Hawai’i today. We learned about the native flora and fauna as well as the many species which have affected the natural force of the islands eco-system.
We visited the Panaewa Rainforest Zoo, the only rainforest zoo in America, where we saw a collection of rare Hawaiian birds and many other exhibits. Namaste, the white tiger was a crowd favorite. We toured the arboretum at the Mauna Loa Macadamia Nut Farm’s Visitors Center and learned about native and introduced plants. As you may recall we had visited once before and so I limited Dot in the gift shop.
We also visited Lava Tree State Park and took a short walk to view the “lava trees” which are a lasting example of what happens when a lava flow overruns a rainforest. On the way to Ahalanui Park we viewed the Kapoho Lava Flow, which destroyed the village of Kapoho in 1960. Once at the park we enjoyed a light lunch and a relaxing dip in the geo-thermal pool, which is fed by fresh water heated by the volcano and makes the water temp as high as 95 degrees. The view of the ocean was not bad either.
In just 24 short hours, we have met several new people from all over the U.S. and have had a great time introducing ourselves and find out about them as well.
We ate at the Cadillac Diner for breakfast and dinner was at the Skyline Restaurant. Tomorrow (Monday) we hop aboard a catamaran for a tour of Lana’i our sixth island stop in as many weeks. Boy we sure get around! Stay tuned . . .
MAugust 14 - Sailing, Sailing, over the ocean blue . . .
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Today we left the ship mid-morning to for a bus ride to Lahaina, Maui, our second stop on the cruise. We are here overnight and don’t leave until 5pm the next day. Our second land excursion was a Catamaran trip to the island of Lana’i for a tour of the only town, Lana’i City followed by snorkeling on the beach.
We left historic Lahaina Harbor for an adventure fit for Hawaiian Royalty. We boarded Trilogy’s custom designed sailing catamaran and set course for the island of Lana’i. While en route the crew served us Mom Coon’s famous homemade cinnamon rolls which are baked fresh every morning. We left the harbor and almost immediately make a right turn back into the part of the harbor where several boats are moored out in the harbor. There we came to a stop and suddenly three large turtles surfaced as if on queue and floated there for quite a while occasionally lifting their heads for air. They finally dove and we turned and headed for Lana’i.
We crossed the channel between Maui and Lana’i which is the heart of Hawaii’s National Marine Mammal Sanctuary. It is about 7 miles to Lana’i and as we passed by the island headed for their one and only harbor, we saw miles of deserted beach and spectacular sea cliffs. As we passed we spotted 4 bottlenose dolphins swimming nearby and they, being as curious as we were, came alongside the boat and put on a little show for us. It was really cool!
The trip to the harbor took nearly 3 hours and so just before we docked, the crew served a deli-style lunch. It was make your own sandwiches, chips, cookies, & soda. Once we had eaten, the crew docked at Hulopo’e Harbor where we climbed aboard a tour van and proceeded to Lana’i City where we got a tour of the city and stopped for some shopping. Of course we had to buy something, if nothing else than to prove we were on the island!
After the tour, we were dropped off at Hulopo’e Bay a private white sand beach and marine preserve. There we got to snorkel for nearly 2 hours. Dot and I saw dozens of fish including several parrot fish which are a sky blue color with orange and yellow on them. We didn’t find any Nemo fish (clown fish) down there though.
After snorkeling, we moved to Trilogy’s Hale O Manele pavilion overlooking the harbor for their famous barbecue chicken dinner and it was delicious. Soon our time on Lana’i was done and we were cruising back to Maui. Shortly after we left the harbor, the captain of the Trilogy, stopped the engines and pulled up the sails and for the next hour we caught the wind for our trip home. Shortly before sunset, the sails came down and we cruised into Lahaina Harbor. Just as we docked the sun set on the ocean between Lana’i and Moloka’i and it was spectacular! Check out my photos!
It was a very long day but was probably one of the best we have had on this trip. The crew of the Trilogy was exceptional and made for the best sailing trip we have experienced. Everything was perfect . . . except for the fact that I stayed out in the sun a little too long . . . yeah, I got burned, but not bad. I should be OK for our next excursion which happens on Wednesday in Kona, HI, our next port. Tomorrow we are going to hang on the ship and check out all the things to do.
August 15 - So this is Maui? I wonder if they have aquarium?
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Today is Tuesday. We are still in Maui. We didn’t have any actual excursions planned so we decided to create one of our own. Dot wasn’t quite done shopping yet. So after a little discussion it was decided to grab shuttle and head for the Maui Ocean Center. It is a Hawaiian Aquarium which is different from any other we have visited. I guess that is because most of the aquatic life you see here you will see no where else on earth.
We got to the dock and found there were no shuttles that went in that direction so we found a taxi driver with a really nice van conversion who would take us and pick us up when we were ready to return. This van was really nice with leather seats blinds in the windows and just as comfy as your living room. Steve, the driver, was the owner and has three of these conversions and shares the business with another associate who drives the second van and has hired one driver to handle the third van. This service was like no other taxi I had ever ridden it. I would highly recommend it to anyone. Steve is very accommodating and will even create packages for you to cater to your every whim. A really great service.
Our journey at the Maui Ocean Center begins at the Surge Zone where pounding waves provide shelter from predators for hearty marine life and juvenile fishes. You move to the Living Reef where some of Hawaii’s most beautiful tropical fishes and living coral reefs in awe-inspiring marine habitats. The reef is into 3 levels, Shallow, Moderate & Deep, each one uniquely different then the other and teaming with life.
Next you can visit a Turtle Lagoon and see juvenile green sea turtles swimming around and feeding. You can also enjoy an up close and personal look at Hawaii’s marine life in a Tide Pool. Then you move to Hammerhead Harbor where you come eye to eye with Hawaii’s must unusual sharks, scalloped hammerheads.
The next place you visit is the Marine Mammal Discovery Center where you explore the world of monk seals, dolphins and whales found in Hawaiian waters. Next you get to experience Hawaiians and the Sea, a tribute to the legends and wisdom of native Hawaiians and their relationship with the sea.
Finally, you take a walk into a large aquarium called the Open Ocean where you see awesome sharks, majestic rays and hundreds of other fishes as you travel through a clear 54 foot acrylic tunnel.
Then there is the Maui Ocean Center Store . . . like a candy store to a child. This place is one of the largest gift shops I have ever seen (with the exception of Disney World) and there is stuff representing every aspect of ocean life in just about every medium you can think of. Dot just went nuts in this store. I just bought another hat . . . only my eighth this trip. (I really needed some new hats!)
We got back to the ship around 3:30 PM. Took a quick nap and prepared ourselves to lay siege to the restaurant on the ship and their lobster night meal. The food is free and you can order it as many times as you want. It seems that gluttony is not a choice here but rather a way of life on the cruise ship.
Tomorrow, (Wednesday) we arrive in Kona, HI and an excursion called an “Eruption of Flavor” . . . Check back on Thursday to read about our exploits tasting great things!
August 15 - Coffee, Chocolate, and Vanilla, Oh My!
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Wednesday, we took a really great excursion that NCL calls the “Eruption of Flavor”. This tour took us to three different places where taste and smell became the tools of the day. Let me explain . . .
We were stopped in Kona and left the ship before 8:00 AM and had to take a tender to the dock. That is because there are nor facilities in Kona for the ship to tie up to the dock. So we were loaded into the ships tender boats about 100 at a time and shuttled to the dock. Once there we got into a 25 person van and began our tour.
Our first stop was on the slopes overlooking the Kona coast. It was the Holualoa Kona Coffee farm. When you drove up it looked like you were pulling into someone’s driveway and guess what? We did. This coffee operation is run by one family on small acreage. They actually have several acres of coffee plants around their farm which they hand pick every couple of days. We were given a short tour of their facilities and were shown how they extract the bean out of it’s shell, the drying methods, and how they sorted them into the various strengths of beans, mild to roast, and premium. We then saw how they roasted the beans and packaged. They are a small coffee operation but they are a thriving mill and roasting operation that handles coffee for more than 100 nearby Kona farms. Considered “one of the best Kona coffees” by the authors of Hawaii: The Big Island Revealed, (and which I gave a copy of to each of the people that joined us on the first week of our trip), this company was also featured in Watch It Made in the U.S.A., a visitor’s guide to America’s favorite “homegrown” products. You can read more on their website at www.konalea.com.
It was as short stop, maybe only 45 minutes but one really got an understanding of what it takes to make coffee which we all consume in large quantities. It is hard work and very time consuming as Kona coffee takes a couple of months to process from start to finish.
Our next stop was the Original Hawaiian Chocolate Factory. Again it was a place tucked away in a rural residential area and was only a short drive from the Coffee plantation. They are the only chocolate factory in the United States that grows their beans on site and processes them from start to finish. This makes it unique besides being totally Hawaiian. The company started in 1997 and their cocoa bean harvests have been dedicated to the purpose of producing their special niche signature dark and milk chocolate. Traditionally, chocolate is made by blending beans from various geographical regions around the world. The cocoa used for their chocolate is grown, hand-picked, and sun-dried on the Big Island where it is exclusively processed The process for extracting the bean and drying it is nearly the same as for coffee but takes much longer. Check out my photos for what a chocolate bean really looks like. They are huge, looking almost like a small football. Again, you read more at their website www.originalhawaiianchocolatefactory.com.
Believe me, this is the real stuff, folks. And it tastes like no other chocolate I have ever tasted. It was great . . . and it was expensive. A quarter pound of this stuff was $8! But worth every savoring bite. Really! The stop was again brief at under an hour, but there was a reason for that. The tour guide really saved the best for last . . . a vanilla bean factory . . . again, the only one in the United States.
After a drive of about one and one half hours, we finally arrived at our destination, the Hawaiian Vanilla Company. Another small family operation, they are the first commercial vanilla farm in the U.S. They are unique in that they provide a culinary tour which includes a gourmet Vanilla Experience luncheon, a family friendly Vanilla Presentation and if you would like an Upcountry Afternoon Tea experience.
We experienced the luncheon as a part of our tour. This Christian family and their four children, the oldest 11, the youngest 4, all participated in helping to serve us each of the four courses that made up our lunch. Between each serving Jim the owner and our host, described in detail the process of making vanilla from the growing of the orchid to its final packaging. It is the most time intensive process I have ever heard of. It is a wonder vanilla gets made at all AND it is the most expensive of any spice in the entire industry. Most vanilla you find in stores is not real vanilla. We are bringing home the real stuff. Ask Dot for a taste when you visit. You can visit the Hawaiian Vanilla Company website at: www.hawaiianvanillacompany.com.
Thursday will be our last excursion off the ship. We going to “Do Something Dirty” That right folks we are playing in the mud using a small vehicle they call the mudbug.
August 17 - Doing something Dirty . . .
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Today is Thursday. We have docked in Kauai. Yes, we were here only two weeks ago but hey, it is nice to be back.
Our tour today was the Mudbug & Waterfall Safari. We had to leave, according to our vouchers 15 minutes before the ship actually docked. Not sure what that really meant but of course they wouldn’t let us leave until after the ship was securely fastened to the dock. Anyway, we piled into two vans (there were like 22 of us) and headed south on some obscure road I had not yet traveled.
After about 30 minutes of driving we got into the little town of Koloa and stopped at Kauai ATV Center, which is the base of operations for our Mudbugs. After signing all the required forms, we all piled back into the van for a 5 minute drive to a place near an abandoned sugar mill and the place where they store all the ATV’s. Boy, there are a lot of them! Probably 50 in all. Some had already gone out earlier so I am not really sure.
The crew members gave us a quick review on what we would be doing today, how to drive the ATV’s and then gave us pants, shirts, and boots that we would wear to keep our clothes from being stained by the red clay mud we would be sure to encounter. Dot put her swimsuit under her clothes for a swim in the waterfall we would eventually stop at and I opted to just put the clothes on and not swim as my ankle was still bothering me.
All the prep work done we climbed into our 2 seat ATV. It is much like a dune buggy but with a little more metal surrounding the seats to prevent any bad accidents it you tip one over. That was a real possibility which of course you don’t ever intend to do but it happens sometimes. These machines are rather simple. They have a steering wheel, a brake, a gas pedal, headlights and a horn. That’s it. Otherwise it looks like a . . . well . . . a mudbug!. Large wheels on the back, smaller ones on the front with the engine mounted securely behind the seats and covered to prevent mud and dirt from getting in there and causing problems.
We first took off on a trail around the property to make sure everyone’s ATV was working properly and then we headed out across the land. The first part of the trail was partially paved road which was bumpy enough to get a feel for how these ATV’s would handle. After a little while the road turned to dirt and rock. Emphasis on the rock. Big ones! We were bouncing around pretty good on these things. It was also pretty dusty and we were in the back of the line so we were getting pretty covered with the stuff. We had purchased bandanas to wear and really glad we did that. We had our bandana tied around our necks and covering our nose and mouth. We had a helmet, goggles which we wore over our sunglasses. And we were strapped into the seat with a three point harness like you see in NASCAR cars.
After about 10 minutes of driving over rocks and small puddles we were already getting pretty dirty. Mud speckled our pants and shirts, while dust stuck to anything wet and I was perspiring pretty good in the Kauai sun. Any part of the body that was exposed to the outside was already looking rather dirty and reddish. We stopped at the entrance to a half mile long tunnel and the crew members gave us a talk about who built the tunnel and why. Mainly it was to help speed up sugar production and shipping by traversing under a large hill that stood between the owner and the shipping areas.
We proceeded through the tunnel and after that the road became more of a trail with deep ruts and potholes, some filled with water, others not. Of course being men, all of which were driving, we had to hit every single pothole and rut . . . with water . . . to try and get as dirty as possible. Just like a kid stomping in every water puddle on the way home from school and his Mom wondering how he got so dirty. We were reliving our childhood!
The road got worse and worse. We were taking hairpin turns, going up and down hills, all the while fighting to keep the ATV on the road and out of trouble. 45 minutes later we stopped at a waterfall and several people stripped down to their bathing suits for a dip in the creek. After that we had lunch.
We headed back towards the yard after about an hour of swimming and lunch and this time I let Dot drive. Boy did she have fun!. Just like a little kid who was never allowed to do this, she just got down and dirty like one of the guys, hitting every hole and puddle she could find. We were both looking pretty crusty by this time. Suddenly, the entire line of ATV’s stopped. Someone in the front of the line had taken a corner a bit to fast and had laid the mudbug on it’s side. It took a few minutes and several strong guys to be able to extract the two riders and get the bug upright, but after finding no real damage to the bug and knowing the riders were only slightly scratched from their ordeal, everyone got back on the road and looking forward to those showers.
We got back and took a group picture. (Photos will be on my website this coming Sunday) It took a while to get all the mud and dirt off. And there weren’t really any showers, just a few hoses connected to a common line mounted on a 4x4 post. So we rinsed off the best we could and hopped into the van for the ride back to the ship.
In all it was a great tour. One I would again highly recommend to any who decide to take the cruise.
We ended our day with dinner at Jefferson’s Bistro, a Mediterranean style restaurant and one that had a cover charge. The food was really good, not your cafeteria style food we had been eating for the last four days and the service was especially great, like what you would expect if you went to Ruth Cris or places like that.
We also got to watch NCL’s version of The Newlywed Game which was as funny as ever and followed that up with a comedian named Jim Alpine who was very funny also. Exhausted after a full day of activity, we poured ourselves into bed to prepare for our last full day on the ship. Tomorrow we have no plans to leave the ship but to spend time by the pool soaking up the last few Hawaiian rays of sun that we can before we have to head for home on Saturday.
Yes, this fantasy is almost over . . .
August 18 - Of shopping, lying in the sun, the Na Pali coast and food.
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Today is our last full day on the cruise ship which is headed for Honolulu as I write this.. Tomorrow we have to disembark by 10:00 am and head for the Honolulu airport and fly home, our tour of Hawaii over.
We spent the morning having a leisurely breakfast at the Skyline Restaurant, the only restaurant available that is not buffet at breakfast time. It was really good food and the service as usual was top notch.
We then got off the ship and boarded a shuttle for the Anchor Shops which is a group of specialty shops near the harbor and we had a good time filtering through all the shops and picking things to take home at the last minute. Dot found a couple of beautiful photos of Kauai with waterfalls in them and has plans to frame them and hang them somewhere in the kitchen. We also stopped at the Del Sol store which has shirts, hats, and bags that have pictures on them depicting Hawaii. Initially they are in black and white but when you introduce the object to the sun it changes into a full color picture. It is quite amazing. I got a t-shirt, Dot got a free tote bag using a coupon from the ship.
We got back on the ship and spent the afternoon lying in the sun and soaking up the last few beautiful rays of Hawaiian sun before we had to go back home. We had a light lunch at the grill next to the pool and then went in to start packing.
We cleaned up, got dressed for dinner and went outside to view the Na Pali coastline which the ship was cruising by at the time. I got some beautiful photos for those in our group on Kauai who never made it there due to weather and physical conditions.
Then we headed for dinner at one of the free restaurants, Little Italy. We have wanted to eat there all week but because it is so small, you needed reservations and by the time we found that out, the only available time was 8:30 pm on Friday. So, we asked some people we met earlier in the week from Idaho and the four of us had a great Italian dinner. We ended the evening walking the ship along deck 6 which you can walk along the rail outside, looking at the stars and the absolutely black abyss which the night sky creates as it meets the ocean. We then went to our room and finished packing.
Tomorrow, we get up early to pack our last few things we need to get ready to leave and then head for the airport. We will let you know how it went on Sunday after we get home.